Question:
Hey I took the dating quiz, really good stuff, I loved the analysis. But, Y’know, I got a question about those seminars (books, etc..), similar to Tom Cruise in Magnolia, where a guy inspires and teaches men about how ineffective their natural instincts & logic are for picking up women. They teach how to become an alpha male and use techniques that take advantage of more lamentable parts of women’s nature. What do feminists think about this?
Answer:
What feminists think is pretty irrelevant. For several reasons:
1) Feminists are ugly and fat and/or socially uncalibrated (socially unpopular, not exactly the hot girl that guys are fawning over)
2) These seminars are not about picking up feminists
Now that irritated some feminists, which i love coz they get irritated so easily, they take everything personally. Watch them post 29 insults on this post in the comments 
Let me correct you on something: These seminars do NOT teach you how to ” take advantage of more lamentable parts of women’s nature”. Or maybe you do, based on how you view things.
If you view “becoming a sexy, hot, charming, confident man” as a “manipulating women into liking you”, then sure, that is correct sir.
The definition of “manipulation” is “to exert an effect upon”. If your mother comes to your home and hugs you, and it makes you feel good… then by definition, your mother “has manipulated you into feeling good”.
” take advantage of more lamentable parts of women’s nature”.
If you view a woman’s instinct to get attracted to high-status, charming, great conversationalists who know what they’re doing… if you view that as a “lamentable part of women’s nature”… Then learning how to behave and be a high-status charming man is “taking advantage of lamentable parts”.
Facts:
-It works
Parables:
“Never understimate a woman’s ability to rationalize”.
Ask a hot woman what she wants “oh i want a guy who opens my doors and brings me roses and is just himself and just is always super nice to me and…
Then ask her when was the last time she actually DATED a guy like that… Watch the excuses fly… (oh but…) Especially since currently she’s dating the biker who doesn’t fit a single of those things she said she likes in men.
But really dude there's no reason you should be confused about any of this. If you haven't taken the dating report to see how you stack up with women yet... Click here and see how you stand with women, with the secret dating report.
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THEY ARE JUST FAKE IDEAS! YOU WILL END UP WITH A GEEK!
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That sort of thing won't get you very far, and if it does, the relationship won't last long…
Only being "yourself" will work – WITH THE RIGHT PERSON. The tick, is finding the right person…
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I think it's really sad that these men are so lame they need to use these tactics instead of being themselves. They will end up with women who have no self-esteem, which if they're only looking for sex, will be quite fine with them.
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It's not bad, feminists shouldn't care they don't have to act they just have men come to them.
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I personally think they're gimmicks.
I hate Sales(I'm analytical), but you can honestly learn a lot just from taking a Sales Course. This will help you talk to people in general.
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i don't see how pretending to be someone you're not is going to help anyone discover a good relationship.
but then, it seems to me that they are just trying to get some action. so i doubt they'd "end up" with anything… ('cept maybe an std &/or child support payments if they aren't careful)
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"that sort of thing wont get you very far" duh its supposed to get you to score, their "game" is to have sex with as many women as possible.
If you are having success with women anyway, those seminars wont probably do much for you.
If in the dating game you are a complete beginner or otherwise impared, those seminars can give you valuable tipps, although most are pretty basic and obvious but still not followed by some.
Get nice clothes get a style talk to women make friends with women, duh thanks sherlock what would I only do without your smartness o.O
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P. T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
I can't imagine how sexy it would be for a man to be pretending to be something he isn't. I prefer a man who is comfortable in his own skin and doesn't look for shortcomings just accepts himself for what he is. To me that is appealing much more so than some macho foolishness.
As for fathers. Most of them had no real role model anyway. Men were taught not to discuss emotional subjects with their children. I think I would have dropped over dead if either of my parents started to discuss the pros and cons of a good relationship and what they did to turn each others crank. Yikes the thought it sends me running for the phone book to find a therapist.
We learn about relationship by being in them. Even the worst one teaches us more about ourselves.
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